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Married sex doesn’t just “stay hot”…but you can fan the flames to create something even more meaningful (and longer-lasting) than honeymoon sex.
This week, we’re talking about how to keep married sex exciting over the long haul. You’ll learn about the shift that happens in long-term relationships, why desire can fade into routine, and what actually helps bring the spark back.
No theory. No pressure. Just real-life rhythms and practical ways you can reconnect emotionally and physically with your spouse. If you’ve ever thought “we’re good… but it’s not like it used to be,” this conversation is for you!
Hannah (00:00.494)
Okay, Juli, this is a little bit different for Authentic Intimacy, but I would like to start with a math problem. So everyone listening can play along. You can play along.
Juli
A math problem?
Hannah
Yeah, listen, my seven year old is obsessed with math. He asked me math equations all day long. I don’t know where it came from, but I live in the math world now. Okay, so I’m bringing it to Authentic Intimacy.
Juli
There you go.
Hannah
Here we go. It’s a word problem on the SAT. Get ready. Let’s say a married couple has sex twice a week, and they’ve been married for 10 years at this point. That’s a thousand times of having sex.
Juli (00:38.683)
Please tell me you didn’t do this math problem with your son. No.
Hannah (00:43.426)
No, I changed the words.
Juli
It would ruin math for him forever.
Hannah
We eat Chick-fil-a two times a week. Over 10 years, how much Chick-fil-A will we eat? Okay, but the reason I’m starting with this question is because we are going to answer this question about how we are possibly making sex fun after thousands of times of having sex with the same person in the same room.
Juli (01:08.59)
How many years have you been married?
Hannah
How long have I been married? 16 years this year.
Juli (01:12.748)
Okay, it’ll be 32 for us, so that’s a lot. It’s a lot of math.
Hannah (01:16.078)
It’s a lot of sex, okay? we get this question a lot. Married couples saying, man, I’ve been having sex with the same person for a really long time. Okay, so we’re gonna have this challenging conversation today of how do we make this exciting still? Is this even possible or is it just like a task now? It’s so long.
Juli (01:35.768)
That’s pretty depressing.
Hannah (01:38.09)
But it’s true.
Juli
Let me just tell you, not only can you make it exciting, I think it actually can get better with time.
Hannah (01:47.128)
Like fine wine. Okay, great. Well, it’s gonna get better with time.
Juli (01:49.868)
I wouldn’t have said that 10 years into our marriage, but now 32 years in, I can say that.
Hannah (01:54.774)
What would you have said 10 years into your marriage?
Juli (01:57.432)
A thousand times is a lot of times.
Hannah (02:00.27)
A lot of times. Okay, so Juli, this is one of the questions that you answered in your new book coming out in June, “25 questions that you’re afraid to ask about love, sex, and intimacy”. And essentially a question along the lines of, we’re still doing this? How do we keep this exciting? This feels like the same thing over and over. And yeah, so that’s your task today, Juli. How do we keep it exciting?
Juli (02:29.75)
All right. Here we go. We’ll dive in. Yeah. okay. So I think Hannah will start this conversation by sort of breaking down what is the goal, because it
Hannah (02:44.181)
Excitement, Juli.
Juli
Who said that?
Hannah (02:32.565)
I don’t know…Didn’t you write that in your book? How do I keep it exciting? I don’t know. What is the question? What is the goal?
Juli (02:54.006)
Yeah, I mean, I think when you only use the word exciting, then you’re missing maybe some of the deeper aspects of what you can be building in a sexual relationship year over year over year. So I think one way we talked about math, let’s talk about chemistry now. How’s that? We’ll switch to chemistry.
Hannah
Wow fantastic.
Juli
All right. So I’m going to give you a little chemistry lesson.
Hannah
Okay.
Juli
And this is something that was news for me several years ago when I learned this, that there are different kinds of sex that a couple can have that actually produce different kinds of brain chemicals. And so you’ve got, I’m going to simplify this, but you’ve got like the new and exciting sex that most people would equate with excitement, which is like novelty, fun, like fireworks going off. And in your brain, that is going to activate the dopamine in your brain. So the pleasure center of your brain, also adrenaline, sort of that sense of newness or trying something risky. But one more thing it will bring in your brain is something called PEA. So it’s a very long name of a brain chemical that actually is associated with sexual novelty. And so when you get that combination of that adrenaline, the dopamine, the PEA, that’s what I think a lot of people associate with exciting sex. Whereas…
Hannah (04:17.09)
…Which man, this is like brain chemistry 101 on why people call it the honeymoon stage. Because you’re in that part. It’s new, it’s exciting. Apparently your brain’s so hot and heavy it’s firing PEA, you’ve never heard of that? But it’s like, there’s a certain release that you’re like, yeah baby.
Juli (04:32.802)
Yeah. And that combination of those brain chemicals, it’s like out of this world. And it’s not just a new sexual relationship or thing that you’re doing. It actually is what happens in your brain when you fall in love. So if you can remember where it’s like, like I didn’t even want to eat for a few days and that’s all I could think about. That was what was happening in your brain. And it’s also why sometimes somebody can quote unquote fall in love with somebody who’s not their spouse and be like, new relationship feels so much more life-giving than the one I’m in because…
Hannah (05:09.026)
Right now I’m not getting a lot of P.E.A. In my 16 year marriage you’re saying?
Juli (05:14.978)
There you go, you’re not at all. Yeah, so, you know, that’s really helpful for someone to know that your brain can trick you into thinking that this new relationship is more real than the one of men. Yeah. Okay, so that’s the brain chemicals that are happening with new and exciting sexual or romantic experiences.
Hannah (05:31.064)
I have feeling there’s another side.
Juli (05:32.718)
There’s another side to this. So there’s also a kind of sex that a married couple can have where it’s just the normal stuff they do. It’s not,
Hannah (05:43.502)
Two times.
Juli (06:01.826)
There you go. But it’s not like we’re introducing something new or we’re going to a fun place or it’s just the normal sort of vanilla sex that a couple has. And sometimes if you are discipled by our culture, you’ll think that that is not worthwhile. But when we look at what happens in the brain with that kind of sex, instead of the PEA and the adrenaline, you’re actually getting more endorphins, which is that sense of feeling good. Some of you are runners, and you know like that runner’s high where you get the endorphins and your body just has a sense of ease. It’s at peace. The endorphins help you sleep better, help you manage stress. It actually boosts your immune system. So there’s all kinds of good things happening.
And you also get oxytocin, which is a hormone that helps you feel bonded and connected. So that was a lot of chemistry, but I think it’s really helpful for couples to know that whether you’re in a season where you’re experiencing new and exciting sex together, or you’re in a season where it’s like you’re just regularly connecting, but it doesn’t seem like this wild, crazy sex, that both are beneficial to the marriage.
Hannah (06:58.486)
So then there’s good in both camps. But is there a part that you’re like, hey, the new and exciting stage is over for you and now we’re gonna focus on just this endorphin building sex? Or are you saying you still wanna add excitement?
Juli (07:17.24)
Yeah, I think you want to balance. Let’s say you have a couple who all they know what to do is chase that new high. And there are couples like that. I think particularly when you’ve been impacted by pornography, it’s like you have this belief that good sex always has to be something that is toe curling kind of thing. So I just made that up.
Hannah (07:40.63)
I was going to let it slip and you just said toe curling.
Juli (07:47.202)
I don’t know what else to say. right. Fireworks. Ten Piece Orchestra, you fill in the blank there. But if that’s your framework, then you’re going to be unhappy a few years into marriage where you run out of new things to do,
Hannah
When it’s a regular Tuesday night.
Juli
Or it’s going to lead you to a place where you’re like, we need to spice things up, so let’s bring pornography in or let’s start crossing boundaries that we shouldn’t be crossing. And so that’s an unhealthy perspective. But I’d also say that the couple who’s been married lots of years and they’re like, it’s just going to be this. Like, we’re not going to be creative at all. We’re not going to invest in this and all. Like that’s probably an unhealthy perspective too, that you want kind of a balance of new and old. Yeah.
Hannah
Mix it together.
Juli
There you go. That’s even in, I think it’s in the Song of Solomon, like bring out delights new and old.
Hannah (08:36.929)
Look at that. Man, it’s always been in there. Okay, but I do feel like as a culture, we’re kind of drawn to or shown this like exciting part of sex. Like it’s supposed to be more of that, you know, can’t keep my hands off of you situation. And maybe even like a pressure that it needs to be like kept exciting, which I think is why some couples, you know, start to undervalue that like normal, married 12 years.
Juli (09:06.83)
It’s what we talk about. You, if you think about all the images that you’ve seen in shows and movies or read in books, we romanticize the beginning of a relationship. Yeah. You know, like there are very few examples that we see in literature or in modern culture where it’s like really valuing the married couple who has been married for a couple of decades and still very much in love.
So we don’t even know that that’s something to shoot for. And so if you don’t know a vision of that, then it’s easy to get disenchanted and discouraged when you’re three or four years into marriage and that newness has worn off.
Hannah (09:50.53)
Okay, so let’s say then for our listener, they clicked on this episode because they’re like, well, I am married and I have been for a while, and I’m out of that exciting honeymoon. And I’d like to do something to like keep exciting or like grow this area of marriage. I think maybe for that person, if they’re like, okay, I wanna keep it exciting. So I feel like it needs to be more impromptu.
Can you talk a little bit more about what that looks like, like this impromptu, yeah, this is just gonna happen versus something you talk about so often of just like the intentionality, you know, I think I’ve heard you talk before about scheduling sex.
Juli (10:29.486)
Didn’t sound very exciting, it?
Hannah (10:31.928)
Yeah, like what do do with those two?
Juli (10:35.246)
Yeah, so impromptu sex really in a marriage usually doesn’t work too well down the road because if you are in the mood and you want to be creative and impromptu, there’s a really good chance your spouse isn’t in that same place. Maybe that can work a few times a year, but that’s not going to be able to sustain you. But what really ends up working is when you commit to investing in your sex life. And that can look like scheduling sex. It can look like, twice a year, we’re just going to get away for a weekend and focus on us. It can look like, you know, just intentionally setting aside time to be creative. You’re more likely to actually experience sex that isn’t just, yeah, we got to do this because we haven’t done it in a while. Because it takes time and energy to plan. And, you know, it’s not just the newness of sex that makes a difference, it actually is even if you change your environment or you go on a date somewhere new.
So I know you and Caleb have married, what’d you say, 17 years?
Hannah
16, yeah.
Juli
16 years, okay. You have three little kids. So when you get away just for a date night, you haven’t told me this or not, so I’m quizzing you here.
Hannah (11:50.932)
I’m nervous about this question.
Juli (11:53.271)
I won’t ask about your sex life, but do you plan to go to the same place? Like, this is our normal place we like to have dinner. Do you plan to do the same thing pretty much?
Hannah
No, I feel like we usually are finding something a little different or a new place.
Juli (12:07.758)
That’s great, that’s key. So couples that get in a rut are usually like, where do you want to go? I don’t know. Like, let’s just go to the same place we always go. You know, we’re tired. Let’s just grab something to eat and then go home and fall asleep. Couples that really invest in this part of their marriage are going to say, hey, when we go on a date, like let’s put some thought into it. Let’s go to a new part of town. Let’s try something we’ve never tried before. Maybe, Ethiopian food or you know, just let’s laugh and let’s be in a new environment. Let’s not just have a meal and then go watch Netflix. Like let’s explore life together. And you actually begin to get some of those brain chemicals going again, even before you ever get to the bedroom that creates some newness.
Hannah (12:56.622)
Juli, when you were answering this question in your new book, I did laugh at the part where you compared sex to meals, like different kind of meals. I feel like it was a really good picture and metaphor for a little bit of what you’re talking about. Can you tell our audience this meal comparison of sex?
Juli (13:14.574)
Sure, well I’m not the one who came up with this.
Hannah (13:17.294)
Well it’s in your books.
Juli
I know. And I think it was probably Kevin Lehman who first wrote about this. So, Kevin, if you’re out there somewhere or whoever came up with this, I give you credit. But if we think about sex in terms of different kinds of food that we can eat, you’ve got fast food, which could be your Chick-fil-A, your McDonald’s. You you can’t eat that every day. If you do, you’re going to have high cholesterol. You won’t be healthy.
Juli (13:44.12)
But it’s okay to be like, that’s all we have time for today. Like we’re busy, we’re exhausted, let’s just run through the drive-through. And in a couple’s relationship, there are situations where it’s like, you know what, we don’t have time for this big elaborate thing, but I love you, let’s just connect. We’ve got kids knocking at the door, like, let’s just get this over with and sort of check that box. And there’s nothing wrong with that quickie, with that kind of sexual exchange that isn’t going to be meaningful, long-term or lasting, it’s just a quick connection. But again, like I said, you can’t live off of it. And then you’ve got the home-cooked meal. So the home-cooked meal is something that you put some thought into.
Hannah
You got to chop some onions, you got to sauté.
Juli (14:28.972)
You do. You had to go to the grocery store and think about what you’re gonna make and you’re putting time and thought into it, and it’s nutritious and it’s healthy, but it’s not necessarily your favorite meal you’ve ever had in your life. It’s your meatloaf, it’s your chicken and noodles, that sort of thing. I don’t know, what’s your home cooked meal these days?
Hannah (14:46.798)
I was going to say chicken parmesan. That’s always a favorite in my house.
Juli (14:49.882)
All right. Okay, good. You’re raising the bar. For me, it’s like salmon.
Hannah (14:56.142)
I just gonna say, yours is like, salmon and rice and broccoli.
Juli
There you go. That’s kind of our home cook meal. That’s what that’s like. And so in a marriage, that is going to be your mainstay where it’s like, you might schedule it once or twice a week. You both put some thought into it. It’s not just like you’re showing up the bedroom without brushing your teeth and all that sort of thing. You really want to take some time.
Juli (15:18.986)
And then you’ve got your gourmet feast, which happens a few times a year. So in our calendar, we have a gourmet feast on Thanksgiving or Christmas or somebody’s birthday where you plan it way ahead of time. You spend some money, and you celebrate. It’s lavish. It’s a little extravagant, but you’re celebrating something.
And the same should be said in a couple’s sexual relationship, that there are times during the year where you splurge. You splurge on time, you splurge on money, you might go stay in a nice resort. You might say, hey, this is just time for us. Let’s get away for a week. Let’s invest in us. And so those are the opportunities where you do have that deep connection. You maybe are experiencing some of that dopamine and PEA that might be different from what you normally experience in your everyday life.
Hannah (16:16.206)
Okay, so I’m sure some people are kind of like nodding along to some of that conversation or those categories, hilarious. It’s such a great metaphor. So as we’re thinking about this and start to be a little bit more practical, like you’re like, okay, like maybe I’ve been doing a little bit too much fast food, you know, or I’ve never done gourmet. Do you have any just advice or thoughts on like, how do we practically start to bring in more fun into this area of our marriage?
Juli (16:45.72)
Yeah, I think it’s not just fun, but also pleasure. Like those are two things to focus on. The late Doug Rosenau, he’s been on this podcast many times and wrote the book, The Celebration of Sex. He made this statement, he said, you don’t work your way to a better sex life and marriage, you play your way to a better sex life and marriage. And I really love that because sex should be playful between a married couple. And this is one of the things that makes it fun and exciting over the years is not just what you’re doing in the bedroom, but the playfulness of flirting together, of the secrets that you have that no one else in the room knows that you have. You you might have a word or a phrase that you say and your spouse knows exactly what you mean, but nobody else does. Or it might be just the fun little physical flirtation of pinching him in the butt or tapping him or you know, that sort of thing where it’s like you’re just playful.
When you think about going out for days, think about spending time together, it’s not just where are we gonna go, but inviting each other to play. What does it look like to play in this season? What is playful for you? Laughing and teasing and you know, even physically going to do something that feels like a break from life, like, for me and Mike, we love to play pickleball. Alright, so it’s like our, I feel like when we go play pickleball, it’s like recess. You know, it’s something that we laugh together. We can be competitive together. It’s play time. And so couples that learn to play outside of the bedroom also then know how to have that lighter perspective in the bedroom.
Hannah (18:32.854)
Man, I love that answer though, because in a way, and maybe this is just like the stage of life I’m in, I’m looking for something a little more serious than that. Like I’m looking like, okay, I need the three-step program and I need to get this on the calendar correctly. And I love like the invitation of it being playful, you know? It’s like bringing the joy and the pleasure to that.
Juli (18:56.428)
Yeah, and it requires both, Hannah, because if we go way back, I used that word recess. That reminds us of like being in school where you had recess. It was a break in the day where you got to go out and play, but it was scheduled.
Hannah
That’s hilarious. You’re correct.
Juli
And the same thing is true, like life is so serious, there’s always problems in marriage. If you don’t schedule playtime, it’s not likely to happen. And so it’s spontaneous in what happens in that period of time, but it has to be scheduled for it to be spontaneous.
Hannah (19:31.404)
Man, that’s such an adult reality. Okay, so let’s say for the person who’s listening to this that they’re like, man, I am really excited about this conversation. Like I know that my marriage needs this. I want to bring this to our marriage. Let’s do it. And the other one is like, I’m just fine with where we’re at. What do you kind of do with that dynamic within a marriage?
Juli (19:54.05)
Yeah, would gently say I don’t think any of us are fine to not have a fun, exciting marriage. Maybe we settled or we don’t have hope for it or there’s a huge barrier in the way. Like, I would love that, but right now I’m just so mad at my husband or my wife. That’s the last thing I wanna do is play.
Hannah (20:17.39)
So you’re saying there might be something deeper going on there versus like just saying no.
Juli (20:21.518)
Yeah. Or I’m going through a period of personal grief or anxiety where I am so far away from being able to relax and play that doesn’t even seem like a possibility. So I think that’s more likely. Again, none of us are like, that sounds horrible. I don’t want to have fun. I don’t want to enjoy my spouse. We just have barriers in the way to doing that. And so for some people, they need to address those barriers of safety, of betrayal, you know, healing and, or maybe like I said, it’s personal where you’re in a deep season of depression and grief and you’ve got to address that before you even have the energy to think about being spontaneous and playful.
Hannah (21:04.674)
Yeah, that’s a good summary of that. So let’s say that a couple that is kind of on this adventure and they’re saying, yeah, let’s do it. Like let’s bring in more spontaneity and pleasure and fun and these things into our sexual relationship. I do think, you you’ve talked about before, sometimes they hit this moment where they’re like, wait a second, is this actually okay? Like, is there, are we supposed to have some guardrails up here or like, is this okay? I remember doing an episode with you on this with Pastor Joe Caruso where you talked a little bit in more detail about what’s okay in the bedroom. We can link that to the show notes, but do you want to just talk like a little bit more about that for the couple who is saying, all right, let’s figure this out?
Juli (21:47.726)
Yeah, if I were to summarize that, and I do encourage you to go back and listen to that episode, because we got more into detail on this, but as long as it’s between the two of you and it’s consensual and edifying in your marriage, then go for it. Yeah, so, you know, I think a lot of times we can put extra rules on us that keep us from enjoying and having fun. So I said, as long as it’s between the two of you, and it’s beneficial and edifying for both of you that you both enjoy this and agree that you want to do this and you’re married, then yeah, that’s pretty much it.
Hannah (22:26.734)
Well, you heard it first. Here’s your permission slip. Signed, sealed and delivered by Dr. Slattery.
Juil (22:33.034)
And I think, you use that word permission slip. And I remember Linda Dillow first using that word where I’m like a permission slip. But I do feel like there are a lot of people in marriage who don’t feel like they have permission to play or enjoy sex. And I can struggle with this a little bit in my personality, Hannah, because in my marriage, I’m the more serious one and my husband is the fun one.
Hannah
No….
Juli
Yeah, I know people are shocked, but, but even in my devotion to God, sometimes I can feel like it’s better for me to sit and read an A.W. Tozer book and pray than it is to enjoy being with my husband. And then you look at other things in life, like I want to witness to my neighbors and I want to be there for my kids and my parents. And there’s all these really heavy things that are important to do and responsibilities that sometimes we don’t realize that we have permission and that it’s actually good for us to take a break and to enter into enjoyment. And that in the rhythms that God has given us throughout scripture, you know, He tells us to rest, He tells us to rejoice, He tells us to take breaks, to take a Sabbath, not always to be working and serious. And so there are people that really do need to hear that this is something that honors the Lord. He created fun, He created pleasure. And he created it for a purpose and for you to enjoy in season and out of season.
Hannah (24:07.746)
So do you think there’s a way that we can keep that exploring on that path of like the fun and like the adventure of it and not turn it into this pressure?
Juli
Yeah.
Hannah
Or like another deadline or…?
Juli (24:21.806)
Yeah, 100%. And there are seasons in life where that might be more difficult, like the season that you’re in with little kids. It might be more difficult to get away, to carve out that time. But I would say that a couple easy ways to just work on this. We already talked about a few, like trying something new, planning date nights, inviting each other to play, being playful out of the bedroom.
But another one I would say is to really be attuned to physical sensation. And I think when you’ve been with somebody so long that you kind of have your routine down, and you miss the physical sensation of even holding each other’s hand and looking each other’s eye and what it feels like to kiss and what your lips feel like and what it sounds like to put on romantic music and just hold each other or just to cuddle together naked. Like some of these things that God created to be sensual experiences that are good in marriage, we skip past because we’re just like, we’re supposed to have sex.
Hannah (25:35.746)
Yeah, it’s like going back to the basics.
Juli (25:38.242)
Yeah, slowing down. And realizing what you’re taking for granted of just the sensation of being together and your body coming alive.
Hannah (25:50.35)
Okay, so I feel like that and a few of these other things you listed are such great encouragements for a starting spot of here’s some things to start. Is there anything else that comes to mind, Juli, for a couple who’s listening who’s like, man, we are stuck in a rut? We are in the biggest rut you’ve ever seen. Of just any encouragement on, man, how do we even get started just to reconnect in this way?
Juli (26:16.258)
Yeah, so I’ll give you a few practical suggestions. Jennifer Degler, another guest on Java with Juli, a fan favorite. She has an email that you can sign up for. I think it’s called C-Wives and we can put the link to that in our show notes where she sends out a dare of the month. And usually it’s the woman who gets this dare, but it’s an idea of how to set up like a fun sexual date with your spouse.
Hannah (26:45.582)
Only Jennifer.
Juli
Only Jennifer.
Hannah
She’s one in a million.
Juli (26:47.726)
She is so creative. Yeah, I mean, she’s amazing. Yeah. But women love this because it gives them great ideas that are safe. You know, like if you just go on the internet and ask for ideas, sometimes you might get some crazy stuff.
Hannah (27:01.834)
Don’t click on any reddit pages.
Juli (27:16.546)
There you go. You can trust Jennifer Degler. Yeah. So that’s an idea. But I think even you can look up like date ideas, you know, new date ideas, or you can look up. Mike and I do this all the time, date night conversation starters. Because again, this isn’t just sex, it’s about how do we keep the spark alive between us? Or fun things for a couple to do together. You know, again, not just bedroom things, but going to the zoo or, you know, it’s like things that you just don’t do anymore because you’re so tired and you’re in a rut. So some of those things can just invite you back into fun again.
Hannah (27:45.698)
Juli, I think one thing I appreciate about this conversation, obviously we talked about the math, we talked about the chemistry, but in all of this that you’re talking about: I just don’t hear pressure. You know, like you’re talking about this in a way that it’s like, man, it’s not like, we have to have constant excitement. You got to work hard. You got to figure it out. But just this invitation of like, listen, don’t just settle in this boring routine. Like let’s look at this in the proactive way and feel invited into something more.
Juli (28:15.084)
It’s a get to, it’s not a have to. And I think that’s one of the things that I’m reminded of often in the work that I do because I talk to a lot of singles who are like, wow, I wish I had a marriage where I can work on these things. Or you talk to some.
Hannah (28:33.558)
You talk to married couples who are like, I just wish I didn’t have to work on this.
Juli
I know, I know. It is so true. It’s like all the single people wanna be married and the married people wanna be single again.
Hannah (28:42.028)
I don’t know, there’s something deep there.
Juli (28:43.756)
You talk to widows or widowers who miss this and they’re like, man, if I could go back, I would have complained a lot less and just enjoyed the gift that I had. Or you talk to people who are struggling with illness and they’ll give the advice like enjoy every day that you have together. And yeah, there are problems and there’s struggles, but I think it’s good to be reminded that, if you’re married and if you have a relatively healthy marriage, like the gift of being able to play together and enjoy each other, that’s just something to thank God for and to pursue, we get to.
Hannah (29:25.612)
Man, that’s a good word. Well, friends, if that’s you who you want to take the next step, we have great resources at Authentic Intimacy for you. Our online book studies, we love talking about these because they’re such a great place to build community with others who are also trying to make sense of God and sex. So we have summer groups opening soon. Just click the link in the show notes and you can get on a waiting list. So as soon as these groups open up, you’ll be the first to know and you can join one this summer. Sounds like a fun summer activity.
You can also pre-order this book that is the reason we’ve been doing so many of these episodes on the questions we get most often because this book: “The 25 Questions You’re Afraid to Ask About Love, Sex, and Intimacy” is coming out in June written by the wonderful, the beautiful, Dr. Juli Slattery. We can’t wait. And you can check out any of other of Juli’s books that really talk more about this for wives. Passion Pursuit is an incredible Bible study, really helping women figure this out more in their marriage. So yeah, we’re so excited to have all those resources that you guys can connect and follow up.
Juli (30:28.608)
Yeah, including some of the other ones that we mentioned like Dr. Jennifer Degler’s email. So yeah, that’s a good one.
Hannah (30:34.552)
I gotta get on that one.
Juli
It’s a really good one. So thank you, Dr. Jennifer, for your listening. And Hannah, thanks for joining me and making this conversation real and fun. And I appreciate all of you who are listening and look forward to having more Java with you next time.